Jay and Lori discuss self-deception and lies. Why do betrayers do this? Why did Jay lie to Lori?
They also cover some things you can do to overcome these behaviors and get to a better place.
0:36 The World: “Porn is okay unless… (2 things)” + one more
1:20 Deception is one thing, but if he’s self-deceived… (forms of it)
2:18 The deception of being involved in recovery
3:39 (Why guys deflect with ‘There’s something you’re doing wrong’)
4:40 Two things you can do to fight his self-deception
6:18 Why have a network of support
7:10 “Being in active recovery” vs. recovering (a difference)
7:38 When the Pros can’t detect it…
9:16 Lori asks Jay what role self-deception played in his life
10:05 Lori asks Jay, “What were you were really doing?”
The podcast is below. (It may take a couple hours for it to show up on iTunes, etc.)